tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post8505665973995255045..comments2024-03-11T01:59:40.386-07:00Comments on Jay Asher: No, I wasn't feeling nice when I wrote thisJay Asherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15714231298501579417noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-84604074917635293362010-11-19T00:08:15.373-08:002010-11-19T00:08:15.373-08:00I just read an article about a first grade girl wh...I just read an article about a first grade girl who's being bullied for liking Star Wars. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/portrait_of_an_adoption/2010/11/anti-bullying-starts-in-first-grade.html" rel="nofollow">Anti-Bullying Starts in First Grade</a>, Chicago Now<br /><br />Poor little girl. The thing is that ten years later, those same boys will kill for a girl who likes Star Wars.Caprica-Lexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04724487773957979757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-85593523855902061142010-10-14T11:28:09.702-07:002010-10-14T11:28:09.702-07:00There's no doubt that Ms. Bennett's rebutt...There's no doubt that Ms. Bennett's rebuttal to such a delicate issue is distasteful and disrespectful; and I applaud you for soapboxing and taking a stance. I see your point that it would’ve been “irresponsible” not to speak up. I felt the same way with my post. <br /><br />The truth is, I don't think there's a person in the world who goes untouched by a “bully”. (Whether they give or receive.) I was called “dog” and barked at in elementary school because some boys thought I was ugly and I’ll never forget that. But I was the only one who, ultimately, could decide how that time would affect my life. My choices stem from how I was raised. <br /><br />My parents taught me the "golden rule", with the phrase "as long as it's in their best interest" added at the end.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03539635286928196695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-9822631760967544362010-10-13T20:37:10.315-07:002010-10-13T20:37:10.315-07:00When someone gets an article published in Newsweek...When someone gets an article published in Newsweek, they're being given a pretty big soapbox. And if you feel their words can be harmful by making people think the bullying issue is being blown out of proportion, I believe it's irresponsible <i>not</i> to speak up.<br /><br />Unfortunately, the topic <i>is</i> bullying, and it can appear hypocritical to publicly criticize <br />the writer of an article <i>about</i> bullying. It's a weird line to walk! Yes, I would feel bad if my words made Ms. Bennett feel bad. But she didn't tell me her ideas privately, she published her ideas in Newsweek because she wanted a whole lot of people to hear what she had to say. So I would feel even worse had I said nothing in response (from my <i>much</i> smaller soapbox).<br /><br />If pointing out the ridiculous and disgusting parts of her article makes me hypocritical, then there I am.Jay Asherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15714231298501579417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-60699596686015704422010-10-13T17:35:34.791-07:002010-10-13T17:35:34.791-07:00As much as I want to agree with everyone's pos...As much as I want to agree with everyone's posts, I think it's important to mention that we don't know the author of the article or her demons. I'm not defending her opinion, but let's not set ourselves up to be criticized as hypocrites. What one person deems "bullying" may be completely different than another's view. The author of the article could misconstrue these posts as "bullying", although we don't. No offense to anyone here as I feel some very valid points are made by Jay and responders; but let's remember what's really at the heart of the matter.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03539635286928196695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-19323983050135069052010-10-10T15:27:41.518-07:002010-10-10T15:27:41.518-07:00Well said!Well said!Katie Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08067504634291164972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-91443657503656540732010-10-10T14:00:10.789-07:002010-10-10T14:00:10.789-07:00Comprehensive piece; great job.Comprehensive piece; great job.Debra Davis Hinklehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07134817193165148414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-41435411430772478832010-10-10T09:50:51.256-07:002010-10-10T09:50:51.256-07:00I think that superintendent was the principal of m...I think that superintendent was the principal of my high school. Those kids were so wonderful. They helped the school get write-ups in the local sports section. And the one who wasn't the athletic superstar, his dad was a prominent Mormon dentist.<br /><br />Of course, Hitler was a nice kid too. He was going to go to art school .....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-3801710558086984822010-10-10T09:29:59.661-07:002010-10-10T09:29:59.661-07:00"Massachusetts’s anti-bullying statute define...<i>"Massachusetts’s anti-bullying statute defines bullying as repeated behavior that, among other things, 'causes emotional harm' or 'creates a hostile environment' at school. If it were applied to the real world, wouldn’t most of us be bullies?"</i><br /><br />Wow! That's horrifying that Bennett thinks that most people behave in such ways! I am grateful to be surrounded by good-hearted people. Thank you so much for your post.Emhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01824878592904910941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-49291450249089767512010-10-10T08:43:41.473-07:002010-10-10T08:43:41.473-07:00Some people can only see the way they are.
I sto...Some people can only see the way they are. <br /><br />I stopped caring what people said when I was 13. Buit that doesn't mean there weren't others who did.<br /><br />No matter whether I feel that they should have or not, I have to acknowledge that differnt people react differently.Claire Dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354840714847021685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-19893502273592270272010-10-09T10:47:25.302-07:002010-10-09T10:47:25.302-07:00When I entered college, all members of the Freshma...When I entered college, all members of the Freshman class were subject to having upperclassmen embarrass, tease, or hassle them publicly and on a regular basis. It wasn't ugly or hurtful (most of the time), but I didn't like it and didn't see why it was being done. Someone told me: "Just think, when you're an upperclassman, you'll get to do that to the Freshmen." I couldn't think of a single reason why I would want to. I had absolutely no desire to ridicule, tease, or humiliate anyone. But nobody I talked to seemed to share my view. I know this isn't anywhere in the neighborhood of the kind of thing that leads someone to commit suicide -- but my point is that a whole lot of people think it's "fun" to torment other people at various levels without any regard for how hurtful that might be to that other person. I have always felt like an oddity because I don't find that sort of behavior entertaining or satisfying in any way.Scotti Cohnhttp://www.scotticohn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-13156958946081014382010-10-09T10:37:32.507-07:002010-10-09T10:37:32.507-07:00There are no words to describe how true your words...There are no words to describe how true your words ring. You're a great man! ♥Catyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08912129352644210433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-37623707117350969032010-10-09T10:12:20.323-07:002010-10-09T10:12:20.323-07:00It angers me to see nothing done about bullying be...It angers me to see nothing done about bullying because in my experience something CAN be done. <br />The following is my only encounter with bullying. And this was BEFORE Columbine.<br /><br />My daughter is now 27 and a 5th grade teacher. When she was in 8th grade, she was a shy, sweet, studious, nerdy type of girl who wouldn’t have said a bad thing about anyone. And she was the perfect target for a bully. She came home one day and told me a girl was bullying her. Caller her names loudly in front of the other students in the locker room in gym. “Accidently” sticking her foot out to trip Claire when she walked by. Slamming Claire’s locker on her hand, etc. My daughter was baffled. She’d done nothing to this girl.<br /><br />I told her to try ignoring the girl. If Claire didn’t react, maybe the girl would get tired of it. The behaviour only escalated. Then I told her to try confronting the girl with a “What is your freakin’ problem?” thinking the girl might back down if Claire showed some backbone. No effect. <br /><br />I told Claire that now it was time to speak to the vice-principal. I told her that this is how I would have handled this situation in the workplace, i.e., ignoring, confronting, then finally get the boss involved as the last resort. She didn’t want me to, but I called the school. I was told to be show up to see the vice-principal with my daughter the next morning at 7:30. <br /><br />WOW. I was amazed by his reaction. He was furious that Claire hadn’t let him know sooner. He had Claire write out an accounting of the behavior. He told her that this would be fixed TODAY. <br /><br />And it was.<br /><br />The girl was called in to the office the moment school started. In front of me, she was told the last and only time she would be allowed to speak to Claire would be to apologize. She was never to speak to Claire again, no facial expressions, no accidental physical contact, nothing. Most importantly, If he heard that ONE WORD had been uttered by this girl to her friends about Claire, in or outside of school, she’d be out of this school forever. Zero tolerance. He was PISSED!<br /><br />And that was the end of it. Claire said the girl seemed terrified to even look at her. Two years later Claire, now a high school sophomore, came home one day amused because the girl had approached her and said, “Can I speak to you now?” and apologized again for her behaviour in middle school. Claire graciously said, “Of course!”<br /><br />The botton line is something can be done about bullying and the bully needs the lesson just as much as the victim needs to know there is help. Kids need to know they can talk to their parents and school officials need to have a policy that’s enforced. I know not all situations are as simple, but I thought I’d share a positive resultCarolinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-54631438599600769322010-10-08T07:02:13.623-07:002010-10-08T07:02:13.623-07:00Excellent post. In writing it, you've accompli...Excellent post. In writing it, you've accomplished that rare instance of providing a critical analysis/review of a journalist's work without losing your humanity, your passion about the topic, or your ability to empathize. This is an academically sound blog post that still maintains a sense of justice... and I feel honored to have read it. Thank you for writing this, and for sharing it with all of us. Your eloquence in expressing your outrage at the original piece will give many of us the words we need to help fight this battle. Now, if only Newsweek will publish your post in response!Lemonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02321956830272646605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-45047951029344581972010-10-08T00:50:53.377-07:002010-10-08T00:50:53.377-07:00Jay, thank you for using your voice to bring atten...Jay, thank you for using your voice to bring attention to this important matter and for challenging Ms. Bennett's and Mr. Sayer's remarks. My heart goes out to Phoebe’s family and to all of the families who have lost a child due to the insensitive cruel acts of bullying. I have witnessed such tragedies and feel the pain.<br /><br />We all have frailties, weak spots, and demons that make us vulnerable. For some, holding it all together is truly a delicate balance. While bullying a person who is already struggling is truly tragic, bullying anyone is wrong and inhumane. Bad behavior is bad behavior. The students Mr. Sayer called “regular kids” are really “kids with bad behaviors.” Instead of excusing them, Mr. Sayer and the other adults involved have the responsibility to hold their children accountable and to teach them well. As a result, perhaps some other lives will be saved.Michelle Parker-Rockhttp://www.Michelle@MichelleParker-Rock.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-70716746030033057122010-10-07T20:19:58.166-07:002010-10-07T20:19:58.166-07:00"...defines bullying as repeated behavior tha..."...defines bullying as repeated behavior that, among other things, 'causes emotional harm' or 'creates a hostile environment' at school. If it were applied to the real world, wouldn’t most of us be bullies?"<br /><br />Wow, that statement is both telling and frightening. Uh, no. I don't think most people go around causing emotional harm and hostility.Ruta Sepetyshttp://www.rutasepetys.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-56161596266153578732010-10-07T19:00:49.843-07:002010-10-07T19:00:49.843-07:00This is an excellent post, Jay, and I could not ag...This is an excellent post, Jay, and I could not agree with you more. From my years as a middle school teacher, which I realize has not been many, the one thing I have noticed more than anything else is the cyberbullying problem. Too often, schools will not intervene because they feel it is an "outside" problem. Unfortunately, these issues carry into our classrooms and make school a very uncomfortable place for many kids. We have become terrified to hold kids accountable for their actions. We slap them on the wrist, if we even do that, and they just venture out to find more "creative" ways to exploit others. They feel they have the right to "post whatever they want" online and defend it with the "freedom of speech" card. Sadly, they have not been taught the difference. It has to stop. Hollow threats do nothing to resolve this critical issue. It's time we made the bully feel uncomfortable.Paul Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219724579550337686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-83672881129908891292010-10-07T14:47:06.564-07:002010-10-07T14:47:06.564-07:00Some very successful ("nice")people, unf...Some very successful ("nice")people, unfortunately, are bullies. They feel they have a right to align people behind them to oppose people who are not behind them. They also feel they have a right to use anybody they can. Their children are, sometimes, also, bullies. Is this surprising? Is it surprising that school superintendents and local authorities find excuses for these "nice" people???Notes from a Virtual Easelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04194576722935106134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-64219348423051991312010-10-07T13:40:18.329-07:002010-10-07T13:40:18.329-07:00After 23 years in juvenile court, I believe that t...After 23 years in juvenile court, I believe that teenagers often learn from the experiences of their peers, not just from being lectured by those in authority. Consequently, “Teen Cyberbullying Investigated” was published in January, 2010.<br /><br />Endorsed by Dr. Phil on April 8, 2010 ["Bullied to Death" show], “Teen Cyberbullying Investigated” presents real cases of teens in trouble over their online and cell phone activities. <br /><br />Civil & criminal sanctions have been imposed on teens over their emails, blogs, text and IM messages, Facebook entries and more. TCI is interactive and promotes education & awareness so that our youth will begin to “Think B4 U Click.” <br /><br />Thanks for looking at “Teen Cyberbullying Investigated” on http://www.freespirit.com [publisher] or on http://www.askthejudge.info [a free website for & about teens and the law].<br /><br />Respectfully, -Judge Tom.Judge Tomhttp://www.askthejudge.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-76583053299477810202010-10-07T13:10:24.753-07:002010-10-07T13:10:24.753-07:00Children, regardless of age, need to be taught (an...Children, regardless of age, need to be taught (and shown) HOW to be compassionate and caring. It doesn't come naturally for many human beings. Children need to be involved in constant and authentic "teachable moment" experiences in order for it to ever be internalized.<br /><br />It is also quite powerful when children are able to experience how bullied children feel as a result of bullying (the REAL fallout)...through authentic discussion, authentic dialogue, authentic role playing. You know, walk a mile in someone else's shoes...<br /><br />Anti-bullying was my #1 focus when I was in the classroom -- even more than the curriculm. I even started a summer day camp called Camp Kindness and I taught the kids HOW to be kind and compassionate. My teaching and my camp are no longer, but my current WIP deals with bullying and the hideous fallout.<br /><br />Kudos to you, Jay for shining the light yet again on this topic.K. M. Waltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07167022736028223997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-5434908994809704852010-10-07T13:08:49.410-07:002010-10-07T13:08:49.410-07:00I am a high school student who lives in Massachuse...I am a high school student who lives in Massachusetts, close to where Phoebe lived. So this is affecting my school and me a lot. I think that kids my age don't completely get it. They read articles like this and think that Phoebe was just an exception, that normally people aren't "bullied" and kill themselves. Even if suicide isn't "common" does that make bullying any more acceptable? Maybe bullying has been around for a while but that doesn't make it alright to say "oh it's happened before so we shouldn't do anything about it now". What about slavery? What if we kept that mind set on that issue?<br /><br />I'm glad to say that my school is taking steps to stop bullying, the new laws make it easy to. It's the law now.<br /><br />Thank you for this post.molly.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04078158350412881483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-86503572005550673172010-10-07T12:47:34.147-07:002010-10-07T12:47:34.147-07:00I, too, was boiling mad when I read the piece in N...I, too, was boiling mad when I read the piece in Newsweek. I've got a son in ninth grade and I've seen the results of cyberbullying. I'll be sending folks to your blog to read your eloquent response.<br />Thanks, Jay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-12178870529536925862010-10-07T11:38:11.662-07:002010-10-07T11:38:11.662-07:00Of all the article flaws you mention--quite eloque...Of all the article flaws you mention--quite eloquently, Jay--I think the worst is the gross underestimation of the effects of cyber-bullying. If school bullying is water in a pool, cyber-bullying is the ocean.JenFWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04426266278784991887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-60677547407954022732010-10-07T11:29:13.905-07:002010-10-07T11:29:13.905-07:00"As though," and I'm screaming this ..."As though," and I'm screaming this to Ms. Bennett here, "school is NOT the "real world!?!?!?!"Lisa L. Owenshttp://llowens.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-21568479014271275182010-10-07T10:17:32.732-07:002010-10-07T10:17:32.732-07:00The "they're good kids" defense alwa...The "they're good kids" defense always astounds me. What we have in this article is a clear example of blind leading the blind. The author's point seems to be that we all hurt each others' feelings sometimes, so that makes it okay.MG Buehrlenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14258047290846258238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30155656.post-16681901158008691742010-10-07T10:14:10.909-07:002010-10-07T10:14:10.909-07:00Thank you for your thoughtful comments. I can'...Thank you for your thoughtful comments. I can't believe Newsweek even published this garbage. Except, maybe they wanted to make the parents of bullies feel better?Miranda Buchananhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09026436848807292844noreply@blogger.com